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My Experience at Team Law

E-mail from Bobby Garner to subscriber list
September 21, 2008

Continuation of Uncommonly Common Communitarianism

This may be a little longer than some of you will want to read, but I promise that if you do read it through to the end, you will find it time well spent, for it will answer many questions we have been struggling with for a long time. In fact, you will likely want to reread it when you're finished. This is an outcome which I absolutely did not anticipate when I obtained an account at Team Law. In fact, I discovered much of it as I researched for writing this E-mail. I should probably rewrite it, but I decided to leave it as is to illustrate how it developed. Thats also why it got so long. This is why I advocate doing your own research. As I wrote down my questions, I looked for and found the answers. Its Intellectual Technology at work.

My third post at Team Law was "Dramatically edited" leaving only my apology with the following reply:

Thank you and no apology is necessary.
We appreciate the fact that much of what Team Law has shared is new to people and we hope our work inspires in you a desire to study and learn the truth about our history, our laws and our government. Though we all have to work together doing our own part to make such knowledge a part of us, in the end we all must do all we can to legally and lawfully restore and preserve our Constitutional Republic.

So everything is cool, my questions have been dispensed with, and the other forum members may continue to believe that communitarianism is just a "conspiracy theory".

While the purity of the forum has been defended and preserved, there was an extensive explanation in a private message. Its interesting to see how they justify the preservation of "conspiracy theories" regardless of the facts.

The Corp. U.S. controlled news media services (which we take no stock in) also call allegations such as you made against the Corp. States are “conspiracy theories”, we agree because no one has shown them to be anything else in any other venue. Thus, though we may agree your presentation as it might relate to the Corp. States was accurate, it has never been proven in any venue where accountability has been shown so the allegation remains a theory regarding a conspiracy. Though such theories may be factual, until they are proven and the parties related to them held accountable they remain theoretical.

Interestingly, the phrase, "any other venue" accepts that the "controlled news media services" is a venue. I wonder whether Public Journalism (also well controlled) is likewise a venue?

venue - 1 a: the place from which a jury is drawn and in which trial is held b: the place or county in which take place the alleged events from which a legal action arises c: a statement showing that a case is brought to the proper court or authority
2 a: locale; also : a place where events of a specific type are held

Communitarianism manifests as "events of a specific type", in a specific "locale", planet Earth. Common Sense is not a venue because it is not a place or locale. In what venue did the Boston Tea Party take place? Was that also a conspiracy theory? For the majority who stayed home and read about it in the news papers, it probably was. I seem to recall that something like only 23% of the population actually took part in the American Revolution. Was Independence Hall a venue? Thats where the Declaration of Independence was signed charging accountability to the British Empire. But that didn't settle anything did it? Did we not fight a war to settle the matter of accountability? In retrospect, its fair to ask: Did that even work? The question of accountability has never been settled, with or without a constitution.

In that respect, I believe Team Law is correct: "We can do absolutely nothing about such conspiracy theories; even if they were true."

Clearly I won't be posting any more at Team Law. I have had two warnings, and I'm pretty sure that anything else I might want to say would get me banned forever. As it is, at least the word communitarianism is there in association with my name. If anyone wants to do a simple search, they will have no trouble finding this Website.

Here are some more of the amusing objections.

I prompted them to take note of the apparent contradiction in which on the one hand, they described my mistaken association of the original jurisdiction governors with communitarianism as "slanderous", which implies that communitarianism is real, but on the other hand they describe it as "conspiracy theories".

Regardless of the fact that they graciously accepted my apology for that mistaken association, they replied, "If you cannot see why alleging innocent people in their service of our original jurisdiction government committed treasonous acts is not slanderous then we are totally wasting our time". Then to their reference to my descriptions of the activities of these associations as "conspiracy theories", they reply, "such allegations that the original jurisdiction government is so involved is a conspiracy theory".

Wonder what are the odds of getting this "allegation [of] a theory regarding a conspiracy" into a proper venue where accountability could be shown?

Team Law's position is based on a belief that the Constitution of the United States of America was inspired, by God: "we believe that regardless what was in the hearts of the individual men who took part in drafting and putting forth the Constitution of the United States of America, we believe it was inspired by God and those men acted in accord with that guidance"

God has inspired worldly men to do things according to His will before. For example, Cyrus the Mede was inspired by God to conquer Babylon (Isaiah 45). In all such bible accounts where men were so inspired, success was certain. Has the Constitution of the United States of America been a success? Lysander Spooner built a pretty good case for its failure less than a hundred years after its creation. He wrote: "whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain--that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it." The Constitution does nothing to prevent "such a government as we have", but did allow for it through the right of contract which is the basis for the present government through NGO's and PPP's.

Therefore, while we cannot be certain that its purpose was to authorize "such a government as we have", we can certainly say that it did nothing to prevent it. Whether it was inspired by the biblical God, or another God, the biblical God would certainly take a keen interest in this development, recognizing that it would be the perfect test of a truth which he had long before inspired one of His true prophets to write:

"Behold, the sound of report! It comes, and a great commotion from the land of the north, to make the cities of Judah a desolation, a den of jackals. O Jehovah, I know that his way does not belong to man; it is not in man who walks to direct his steps." (Jeremiah 10:22, 23)

Jeremiah was relaying a message inspired by Jehovah, to the rebellious "cities of Judah", which emphasized their dependence upon Him to direct their step, and because they had rejected Him, He would abandon them to those coming from the "land of the north". They would reap desolation from the bad seed of independence, and self determination.

Attempting to restore this Constitution reaffirming independence, and self determination in the face of the mountain of evidence against it, is not seeking God for his blessing, but a continued rebellion against His sovereign authority.

It is in fact, an attempt to realize the demon inspired vision of Sir Francis Bacon for a world dominated by an English speaking global empire. It is indeed, a counterfeit of Gods Kingdom on Earth, which is also the known objective of British Israel, its puppets and benefactors (such as the Pilgrims Society) as well as their creations and proteges, Zionism, Christian Fundamentalism, Communism cum Communitarianism, and the New Age Movement. All operating under the sheltering wing of the Anglo/American created image of itself, the United Nations. See Revelation 13:14,15 - 14:9,11 - 15:2 - 16:2 - 19:20 and 20:4. Keyword "image".

Here is the mind having wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains, where the woman sits on them. And the kings are seven. The five fell, and the one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he does come, he must remain a little. And the beast which was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes to perdition. And the ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will receive authority as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and their power and authority they shall give up to the beast.

These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and the ones with Him are the called and elect and faithful ones. Revelation 17:9-14

The "beast which was, and is not", the "eighth", and the "ten kings", are one and the same and also synonymous with the "image of the beast". It comes from the previous seven "mountains" meaning world powers, but it does not become the eighth world power. As an image, it exercises authority as kings, but is in fact, the visible representation of world power held by the previous seven, and which remains in the hands of its creators, the two horned beast (Rev. 13:11) which presently stands as the Anglo/American dual world power, which looks like a friendly and docile lamb under the torch of its Statue of Liberty but it speaks with the hot breath of a belligerent dragon. Ask the surviving victims of American wars about that.

The Anglo/American dual world power appearing as a lamb presents itself as "Lord of lords and King of kings", and falsely claims that "the ones with Him are the called and elect and faithful ones" which remain of the tribe of Judah, and they believe their destiny is to manifest the Kingdom of God on Earth.

All visible and tangible parties to this massive global deception and those complicit with them (Revelation 12:9), which necessarily includes those deceived by them, whatever their claims, identity, or affiliations, constitute the synagogue of Satan. "And I know the evil speaking of those saying themselves to be Jews, and they are not, but are a synagogue of Satan." (Revelation 2:9) and "Behold, I give out of the synagogue of Satan those saying themselves to be Jews, and they are not, but they lie." (Revelation 3:9)

Is this too just a conspiracy theory?

"Just a brief word concerning the design of our header: You will notice the US Flag superimposed over the flag of the United Kingdom. This is historically symbolic, in that the United States was born out of Great Britain, and there are not only deep political ties between our two nations, there is an undeniable genetic connection. The chief significance lies in the fact that the Anglo Saxon peoples can positively trace our lineage back to ancient Israel, the people of God and of the Holy Bible." - British-Israel-World Federation USA

Following is an excerpt from a document used by Eric Madsen of Team Law, and a staunch defender of the Constitution of the United States of America:

I belong to a Jurisdiction foreign to the United States and foreign to this Forum of THE STATE OF COLORADO:... I give Notice... demanding all of my rights under the Laws of the Kingdom of Israel, God's Natural Law,... Kingdom of Israel Law, must be used as controlling law in this or any action with, Ambassador Eric W. Madsen. - WARN pdf

Why did McCain choose Sarah Palin for his running mate? "Alaska is thus celebrating its Jubilee Year as a territory among the Covenant nations of the Kingdom of God upon earth."

Links...
History of the British-Israel-World Federation
British-Israel-World Federation (Canada) Inc.



My last post to Team Law

September 23, 2008

When Team Law recommends to "Learn the Law", does it mean the Constitutional United States Law, or does it mean the "Kingdom of Israel Law" as the "controlling law"? Is the "Kingdom of Israel Law" superior to the Constitution of the United States of America?

The WARN Newsletter dated May 18, 2008 describes its "threefold purpose" 1) "To wake up America...". 2) "To timely provide accurate information, resources and training to a Network..." 3)  1st - printing legal strategies..." 2nd - "educating the people..." 3rd - "training wealth principles..." 4th - "..how to create passive cashflow" 5th - "teaching NLP..." (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) and 6th - spiritual aligning the strength of conviction and will to succeed" emphasizing that "we're at war".

Is NLP used by Team Law in "educating the people"?

Neuro-Linguistic Programming is one of the new methods of interacting with the mind in such a fashion as if it were little more than a computer. NLP as defined by it's practitioners is, "the study of the structure of subjective experience", and is predicated upon the assumption that all behaviors have a practically determinable structure. They believe that the things people are aware of internally and externally, can always be described in terms of the five senses. It seeks to circumvent our traditional communications as represented by the words we speak and which occurs at a level of "conscious awareness".

Subjective experience of course is not objective or real, and circumventing traditional communications which relies on the use of words implies that the definitions of words no longer matter. Since traditional communication by words occurs through "conscious awareness", then may we assume that when NLP is in use, communication occurs at the subconscious level (subliminally)?

Does this mean that the student is not conscious of how he gained his new knowledge? Does the student believe that it simply sprang from his own resourcefulness, even if such resources are in fact non existent?

Does NLP imply that students of the law at Team Law are merely programmed in the same way as a robot is programmed?

Is it true that the administration of Team Law was once professionally involved in the field of Human Neurology? In human behavior design engineering? Does the administration believe that "perspectives are actually quite easy to install, when you know what you are doing"?

A site search of teamlaw returns no results for British-Israel, so may I assume that its never been mentioned here? Has anyone ever mentioned British-Israel-World Federation before on this forum? I ask because it has become apparent from articles published in the WARN Newsletter that similarities do indeed exist.



Private Message Sent at: Wednesday September 24th, 2008 3:06 pm GMT
by Admin

Bobby Garner:
Due to the content of your most recent post in the Topic: Uncommonly Common Communitarianism, we have restricted your access to our Open Forum system. At present, you have the ability to send and receive private messages to and from Admin. Before your access will be restored you will have to contact Admin via private message or call our Trustee on the telephone. Instructions for calling Team Law are provided on our Contacting Team Law page.

We have taken this action because you have been twice warned about the purpose for our Open Forum system and your agreement to follow our Forum Rules, yet your most recent post to our forum seems as if it may have an ulterior motive that is not in keeping with those rules.

Thus, to allow you the opportunity to discuss your intentions with Admin, we have restricted your access to our Open Forum system and limited your use of it to private message contact with Admin.

Because there is a only your intentions regarding your most recent post are in question we have also moved the topic from the Open Forum system to the Admin system, where your inquiry will be responded to and if your intentions are not malicious the topic will be restored and your most recent post in that topical thread will be responded to.

Your inquiry that instigated this action referred to our WARN newsletter, volume 1 issue 1, therein incorrectly referenced our use of the term Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), implied the technology of NLP is something other it is and finally twists the framing of a few follow up questions into a string of implied accusations; none of which have anything to do with Team Law, its purposes or functions.

From the course of your participation with Team Law thus far, it seems like you may be a person desiring to use our Open Forum system for some purpose other than our intended purpose. If that is the case, it will not be allowed. Thus far you have shown no genuine interest in Team Law; rather you have shown a passion for concepts and theories that have nothing to do with us or our work.

If this is not the case, we apologize for our action and we will return access to our system.

If you have no genuine interest in learning about Team Law so you can help us restore our Constitutional Republic, then we wish you well in your honorable pursuits and say good-bye.

As a final note regarding your most recent post, though there are many people that may market NLP as something more than it is the simple fact remains, NLP is the technology, discovered by Richard Bandler, from "the study of the structure of subjective experience", which resulted in the understanding that the natural way in which we all learn and communicate is the whole experience of whatever we hear, see, taste, touch and smell. Where that is how we learn and program ourselves then that is the very definition of both learning and communication. Accordingly, NLP is simply the study of the way people learn and communicate. Thus, the structure of language elementally affects experience. Accordingly, NLP is not something we can use or not use it simply exists as the nature of how we all communicate, like it or not. Applying what is learned from the study of NLP (the way people naturally and automatically learn and communicate) enhances everyone’s ability to understand the effects of what is being communicated. Learning what NLP has shown helps people avoid being programmed against their will.

The way Team Law uses NLP is by showing people the structure of language and experience so they can see how advertisers and the powers of governance use that technology to literally program the people for the desired result. A large-scale example of this is the known governance cycle of disaster creation, to disaster solution, to disaster prevention. This cycle is used to cause people to allow that which would never be allowed had the controller not created the disaster in the first place example—the events of September 11, 2001 (disaster creation), 5 days later – the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act (disaster solution), 20 days later Homeland Security Act (disaster prevention).

This is a clear sign of people being programmed to allow that which government has no lawful authority to do. Most of the States outlawed the application of those acts so the controllers said OK, so we will not allow your identification system as acceptable for Air Travel. Result—right effectively removed, federal control of identification initiated.

You seem to have forgotten, the only effective way to understand how a tool is used against you is to study the tool and apply it.

You take the fact that we help people learn how to avoid such traps by learning how their neurology works implies we would use it to program people maliciously. Any simple review of all of the material we have made available and all of what we have presented on our websites is something totally foreign to what we do. As has already been made perfectly clear, Team Law was formed by a few people in Denver, Colorado without affiliation with any other group. We have remained a sole organization and our Charter allows no external affiliation with any other organization.

In the future, you will have to stop framing any material you post on our Open Forum system as if we are involved in some kind of conspiracy against anyone. We say what we say directly. Thus, you can read what we have provided and that is all it is.

Thus, if you are ever granted access to our Open Forum system again your inquiries will be related to what we do and will not be framed to imply we have any ulterior motive. If you cannot follow that guideline, you are welcome to go elsewhere.



Private Message Sent at: Friday September 26th, 2008 12:51 pm GMT
by Bobby Garner

Admin's Reply is in blockquotes.

My intention is to discover the truth.
We appreciate that intention. We are also seekers and supporters of the truth, which should be self-explanatory on a review of the work we have posted both on our websites and in our responses posted on our forums. However, you must understand that the pattern of your inquiry has not appeared to be one of a truth seeker; rather, it has been styled more after the pattern of suspiciously accusatory inquiry focused on an agenda to post information not related to Team Law or its work; which agenda is in contradiction to the purpose of our Open Forum system and our Forum Rules; thus, the necessity of edits and warnings. Still, rather than blocking your access completely, under the benefit of doubt, we provided you with continued access to private messages with Admin, hoping that your intentions are honorable and will here be resolved—we continue with that hope. (we are reading your reply for the first time as we respond—so we will see where it goes together)
I had a link to Team Law on my website for a couple of years based on my initial impression which was that Team Law was a strong supporter and defender of the Constitution.
You were correct with that initial impression.
Subsequent research indicates that there was probably an ulterior motive behind the development of the Constitution of the United States of America.

We are familiar with such allegations and with the ideas some people have today regarding such matters. As to the “probability� of such a history, we take no concern; for two reasons:

  1. After reviewing the Constitution for the United States of America and the Constitution of the United States of America and comparing them with any other Constitution or other instrument generated for the purpose of forming a government, we find they stand together on their own as the single best known documents that have ever been written for the purpose of forming a government; and if adhered to, they better secure both the privileges of proper and lawful government (State and Federal) and, more importantly, the individual rights of the individual people; and,
  2. Regardless of any other groups ideas or ulterior motives, plans or desires before or since, the body of men that worked together to finally agree on and sign the Constitution for the United States of America got the job done on their own in that room over that period of time and came to that agreement alone—and so formed the Union into a Constitutional Republic. Then, the individual states compelled the addition of the Bill of Rights to form a binding contract that exquisitely limited the government from encroaching on the rights of the individual people—the Constitution of the United States of America.
  3. We accordingly believe those men (regardless of any possible ulterior motive) guided by God and accordingly those constitutions were instituted by God, because no other force on earth has ever before demonstrated the ability to generate such an exquisite document for such a purpose.
That would be a secret destiny related to the Royal families of Europe, centered around British Royalty and Sir Francis Bacon's vision of an English speaking world empire led by the returned Christ which that English speaking empire would produce. British Israel World Federation is certainly in line with that view, and is actively and publicly promoting it.

Again, though we are aware of the opinions that indicate that possible element to history, we still review the constitutions themselves and express the opinion regarding them last noted. The documents themselves prove their worth, regardless what it took to secure them. We cannot imagine a limitation in God that would keep Him from using righteous people or even the most wicked of people or organizations in the world to accomplish His desires. Thus, given that said constitutions on their face exemplify His hand, then it must also be obvious that if others had ulterior motives in setting up such a Constitutional Republic, their motives play right into the hand of The Master's Touch in setting up the end game by instituting the single most powerful institution of government ever formed to empower the private people with the ability to manage its control with law, regardless of any other force, organization or design. Again, as we continue to show, the key is to learn the law so it can be applied. That also is a necessity. Even under whatever plans any other organization may have, the people of this country uniquely hold the power to learn the law and apply it to restore our nation, legally, lawfully and correctly—and that is also only a reality because of the combined force of Constitution for the United States of America and the Constitution of the United States of America.

Thus, we do not care about such other organizations and or about their designs for our country. We care about awakening the people of our country and helping them learn how to learn the law for themselves and haow to use it to restore and protect our God given inherent rights. In fact we see worrying about such organizations as those you have thus suggested a gigantic waste of our time because time is limited and regardless of what those organizations do the only thing we can do to save our country and our rights is to get our Constitutional Republic back up and running in accord with those inspired documents. Finally, if we are to get our own lives in order and live in accord with the covenants offered by God to man then we also have His promise of protection and support. We like that. That is why we live it.


There are other facets of British Israel besides fundamentalist religion, involving finance and politics. In finance its the Pilgrim Society whose objectives are wholly compatible with and necessary to the British Israel objective. In politics, it was Communism and Zionism which presently enthrals all political parties allied with the Anglo-American world power in its train. Spiritually, it embraces many key precepts of the anti-establishment New Age Movement.
We could not care less about anyone's personal religious beliefs. We know that the laws of God apply to us individually, not collectively. Thus, considering that it is obvious that obedience to what we know to be true is the primary law that applies regardless of what you or anyone else believes in, then my only concern (religiously) is my standing with God in the end—that deals only between God and me. Thus, we believe it is best for us to stay out of others personal religious or spiritual beliefs. That does not keep us from recognizing that in accord with law in the United States, the Bible is the word of God; it is also the foundation of law in the civilized world and beyond. Thus, it is certainly a reasonable source to quote elemental principles upon which the law is based and it is becoming of people to follow. Thus, we use it as a valuable resource in law even though we have no organizational relationship with any organization outside of Team Law.

With Communism declared dead, the UN Earth Summit in Rio in 1992 introduced the UN Agenda 21 environmental program.
Regardless of any “declaration�, it should obvious that the Corp. U.S. is the single largest communistic organization that has ever existed on the planet. Supporting this statement we refer you to our Myth 22 article.
All member nations, NGO's and PPP's are actively working to implement its sustainable development, for the "Common Good", or as Etzioni prefers, the "Good Society" with people such as himself defining the meaning of 'good'. In practice, it means bringing everyone down to the lowest common denominator such that no one individual succeeds beyond his peers. Each individual works for the greater good of his community, not himself. Its socialism in a user friendly wrapper of Democracy. Its a beautiful thing until the wrapper finally comes off.
We disagree, we see nothing about it that is anything but subversive and destructive from the get go. Still, it has nothing to do with Team Law or our almost total focus on solution.

You may write this off as conspiracy theory and irrelevant to your work, but restoring the original jurisdiction Constitution, even if it were possible, will not stop it. It won't work because the United States is already becoming irrelevant. We are already under United Nations regionalized International Law known as Communitarian Law, and the people eagerly and overwhelmingly support it.
Conspiracy theory or conspiracy fact it is totally irrelevant to our work; accordingly, its announcement on our Open Forum system is a waste of our time and effort to do the work we do. To that end, we disagree with your opinion that our solution will not stop it. In fact, it is likely the only thing that will stop any such plan as you relentlessly relate. And, our plan is certainly the only possible way anyone has shown to stop it legally, lawfully and without bloodshed. Finally, if as we stated above, God does support His children that follow Him, and we do, then His promise is that he will support our righteous effort to save our country and that is exactly what the scriptures say about the matter. In fact, that is exactly what we learn from Daniel's interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream of the end game for all of the organizations you have referred to thus far (IMF control—IMF being the foretold governing body with ten toes of iron and clay).

Non of this could have possibly developed except in a free society such as provided by the Constitution of the United States of America. By the vestment of sovereign authority in the ordinary man, the Constitution's history has settled the question once for all time that "it is not in man who walks to direct his steps." - (Jeremiah 10:23) The proof is in, why would do-overs be allowed?

NLP is an offshoot of Perceptional Control Theory.
That allegation is a “crock of crap�! At this point, you embark on an area you obviously have no knowledge in. Regardless of what any third party source may have told you. NLP is simply what its name implies. “Neuro� is short for: “Neurology�; in the term NPL it represents the fact that we all have a neurology comprised of the sensory nature of virtually every cell in our bodies. “Linguistic� means of or pertaining to language; thus, when combined as Neuro-Linguistic, it means there is an internal language the body uses to store, retrieve, utilize and accomplish all experience anyone has. “Programming� simply means that there is a program running within that Neurology. In other words, NLP is simply the acknowledgment of the existence of a programmed and programmable nature of each of every living being. Thus, NLP is like any other tool in that awareness of it allows its use. As with guns, in and of themselves do nothing. How they are used is entirely in the hands of the user. I personally know the man that discovered NLP, Richard Bandler. The facts of his discovery are well known. They do not fit your allegations. Even if they did, again, the technology that came from Bandler's discovery is simply a tool that happens to work. It involves that fact that you can read the basic signs anyone goes through as they process information. Thus, you can literally read their program. That fact opens the door to a very powerful therapeutic tool. Again, as with almost any tool, they can be used for good or for evil. Just because the same knife that work best to cut a tomato can be used to cause death, does not make the knife evil.

The Control of Perception http://www.perceptualcontroltheory.org/treepub.html (William T. Powers, 1973) is recognized as the original statement of Perceptual Control Theory. The thesis of Perceptual Control Theory is essentially the same as that of NLP: "that our perceptions are the only reality we can know, and that the purpose of all our actions is to control the state of this perceived world.
Wrong. Regardless of what anyone has to say, NLP has nothing to do with perceptions. Though when you have any experience, perception or otherwise, it will be the result of what you have stored in your neurology and you will have stored it there only through your own use of your body's natural language process programmed by you. That is the study of NLP. It is impossible for anyone to function except through that process—NLP. With it you function, without it you do not exist.

"The Control of Perception gives social scientists -- finally -- an alternative to both behaviorism and psychoanalysis. It provides a way, both elegant and sophisticated, to include the basic contributions of both without being partisan or converted. It allows us to bring the soma, culture, society, behavior, and experience into a single framework. We now know much more than we did before this book was published."

Bandler published his book Frogs into Princes: Neuro Linguistic Programming in 1979 as a compliment to Perceptional Control Theory.
Knowing Richard and why he published the book, we have to say, that is nonsense. Richard's purpose in publishing that book was to make money. By the way, if you have not read the book, and you are not afraid to learn something about the subject, the book is an excellent read, you might enjoy it. Its premise is that you have a brain and you should learn how to use it on purpose or you will certainly be plagued by others using it with or without your permission. That premise is an absolute fact and it actually fits exactly what you seem to be so worried about, “The N.W.O. is out to get you!� True enough a concern. We know it is true as well but having the tools developed by the study of NLP allows a person to recognize such programming and even to see its effects throughout history. Again, NLP is a tool. Knowingly or unknowingly, you use it every moment of your life—it is impossible not to. Richard simply discovered how to read it and use it. When he discovered it he was just having fun going to school working on a degree. The primary cause of his discovery,, he was raised a New York Jew and noticed idiosyncrasies between the way he was raised and what is; still, that upbringing programmed in him autonomic responses to things. He was wondering how that happens and went out studying excellence in therapists that got changes in lifelong programming that was not serving people well. In the process he learned keys to the natural language process everyone uses to function neurologically; thus, NLP was born. He wrote his first book as a required component of his Doctoral Thesis. Surprisingly enough, it sold and he made some money. He started doing Seminars with John Grinder and they sold as well. So, he started converting his words spoken in those trainings into written books; that's where Frogs into princes came from. Those sold like hotcakes and Richard sold more. That was his motivation—simple, sell books make money. That and the hope the people might learn how to use their brains for a change.
Perceptual Control Theory, Neuro Linguistic Programming, Norman Vincent Peale's Positive Thinking, and many other concepts of self improvement and self empowerment, whether wittingly or unwittingly, serve the New Age change agenda which was first annunciated by occultist Helena P. Blavatsky, then more recently by Alice A. Bailey. Bailey directly addressed the "Master's of the ancient wisdom" who served in the high degrees of the secret societies and strongly suggested that the time for action had come. She called them "World Servers", Disciples and Aspirants. Their activities can be seen by comparing the results of their action with the Plan as Bailey outlined it in great detail from 1919 until her death in 1949. Other identifications are Water Carriers and LightBringers. Their mission is to prepare the world for the "Reappearance of the Christ". Their most effective tools are psychological warfare, magic and mass hypnosis.
Again, as we have shown, NLP is simply a tool. Everyone uses it like it or not, because they have bodies that function. Anyone that tries to make more or less than that out of it than that is simply spinning the facts to fit their story or sales pitch.

In your comments you indicated that NLP is virtually synonymous with psychological warfare or that its used to perpetrate psychological warfare, which I believe is true.
You must have misunderstood. What we intended was NLP is how your neurology functions. If you do not learn how to use it on purpose you should at least learn how others can use it against you. It is not that NLP is good or bad. It simply is. Without it you could not live, breath, eat, sleep, think or live. It is simply how you do it. No doubt people have learned NLP does exist and accordingly some use the tool on purpose for evil intentions; by the same token others study it to honorable and beneficial purposes; either way, everyone uses it because without it they could not exist. Thus, wisdom says, we should all learn to use this tool that God gave us to the best of our ability. The good news about that is learning how to use the tool makes us wiser in all that we do and it can eliminate the possibility of others using the tool contrary to our desires and needs. Either way, NLP is simply a tool that comes with the body. If you are ignorant of it, you are prone to be the subject of those that learn to use it with or without your will.
On the other hand you introduce an apparent contradiction with the contention that NLP is the "natural way" of learning by subjective experience. I wonder how you might reconcile that?
Easy, you are taking what we presented out of the context we presented it in. There is not contradiction in what we presented, you simply seem to have misunderstood the intent of what we wrote. Hopefully, with the addition of what we presented today, you will understand better what we said before and you will not take it out of context now.

While I do accept that subjective experience is an entirely natural process, the data acquired is like an unprocessed database. The successful cognitive processing of the database produces knowledge and understanding, but that is possible only by a unique individual in possession of the cognitive powers. Subjective experience is only the beginning of understanding which is another level of knowledge lying beyond the data points of mere sense perception. NLP subverts individual cognitive processing of the database, and installs a prearranged, preprocessed, and preapproved understanding in its place with or without the knowledge of the target that his own cognitive processes have been subverted and bypassed. The target is not allowed to do his own independent thinking.
Balderdash! That's just plane ridiculous. As we noted when you entered the area of NLP in your reply, we noted, “At this point, you embark on an area you obviously have no knowledge in.� You have obviously become the subject of someone beguiling you with nonsense, such opinions are not the product of an intelligent working mind focused on the study of a subject. Accordingly, we imagine you are getting such dribble from some source that for some reason has an adverse opinion of what NLP is. That does not change the simple fact that NLP is simply what its name says it is. Accordingly, it is the way you unconsciously program you. Understanding how that works can be used by anyone that understands it. Understanding it provides the person that so understands the power to use the tool to the extent of their understanding. Again, NLP is the way everyone processes everything.

Teaching NLP as a cutting edge technology in learning is nothing more than the power of coercive persuasion packaged in a New Age wrapper to achieve New Age objectives.
At this point we are ready to stop this review because your presentation is going nowhere. You obviously either have no experience with the matter or you have been abused by someone that was selling you something, either way, your path along this line is wrong, misinformed and sharing it with us is a waste of time, so we will skim down to where you might change the subject. Accordingly, the strikeout text that follows was not reviewed.
Those long term New Age objectives are Unity, Oneness, Community and subjection to a community of peers. Short term objectives are readily apparent. They are multiculturalism which in practice means mixing and blending of cultural diversity, its dialectical opposite equality promotes moral relativism which means isolation and separation and is related to Ascension to godhood for some and death to those who cannot ascend. The contradictions thus produced are exquisitely blended to promote the mass confusion and social chaos which is characteristic of this postmodern society.

I have prompted you to consider the option of rethinking your position.
You have done nothing of the kind. What you have done should be obvious by our response. You misunderstanding of the Tool NLP is simply an example of a person that has learned something that is inaccurate. They can present anything they want on the matter to one that knows the difference and all they do is come off ignorant of the facts. We hope to have helped you understand that with our response.
How you respond is immaterial to me,
That comment indicates that there is a great potential that we have wasted our time in writing this response. It is also one of the reasons we don't read the end of a reply before we make such a response. Responding on the fly as we have allows us to provide you with the benefit of the doubt. If you have a mind to learn about an error in your understanding, our response will have struck a chord and you might open the door to learn the truth you stated you are seeking. If not, we wish you well and you have no need to reply to this response because it would likely simply waste more time and if the content of such a reply was more of the same that you have sent thus far, we have no more time to waste. If however you might realize that not everyone is part of the conspiracy to take over that you have been warning us about, then you might realize there is a value in what we do and that here is hope in restoring our country with our rights well secured. That is certainly the purpose for our doing what we do.
but it could be of major importance to you and your students.

You call the people we work with 'our students'; however, that indicates that you again have misunderstood what we do. We do not teach and those people are not our students. We simply help people learn how to educate themselves. Again, it would do no service if we become just another third party talking head teaching people how we think everything works. That is exactly how we got into the situation our country is in, in the first place. The only real solution is the people must awaken and learn that they must teach themselves from the actual records of history and law to discover the truth. They cannot come to us or to any other third party to get that education. They can only get it by their own experiential study. That is the only way they can be sure they are accurate in their understanding.

We expect the example of your espousing so much about NLP, when it is obvious by your presentation that what you presented is not information you have gained by your own experience with the subject. Rather it is something you got by believing something you read or heard from some 3rd party source or group of 3rd party sources (or worse) that have some interest in dissuading you from the truth. Perhaps they do not want you to know. Again, if you were to choose to discover the truth about that subject we suggest you go to the source, Richard Bandler, or to someone that he directly taught and recognizes as a person that knows of what they speak.

So it is with all matters for the seeker of truth. If you are not going to the source and to the records of the source for your so-called 'understanding', then what you think you know is obviously tainted by its 3rd party teller's spin on the truth.

I don't wish to be in violation of forum rules.

Good, that is an improvement. Perhaps there is hope, after all you agreed to so comply from the beginning.
If you cannot amend the rules to allow for open discussion of these points,
What points? We are not aware of any points you have made so far...
then I have no further interest in the forum and I would kindly ask you to cancel my membership.

Accordingly, we are curious, why would you ever register to use our Open Forum system in the first place? Did you do it simply to waste our time? If you did, we hope the repercussions in life from that kind of attitude will impound upon you only hard enough that you learn to change your heart before it is too late. IF the reason you have so wasted our time is you did not understand those rules, we suggest you take this opportunity to start reading better that which you study. Finally, we hope you understand, though we do understand your concerns over all of those subversive organizations you related to in your posts, reply's, etc., they are completely foreign to anything that has anything to do with Team Law. Team Law has only one affiliation, that being, the affiliation it has with each of its beneficiaries; all of whom are people. From the beginning, we have been forthright and up front with you and everyone else. So if you want to communicate with us in honor of that and of our purpose, we welcome that. If you have any other motive, please leave us to our work and stop wasting time, yours and ours. ...

We do not know why you presented links to your websites. When it seems like you will toward us has changed. Perhaps it is because you think we do not understand the nature of the organization you seemed so passionate about accusing us of relating with even though nothing could be further from the truth. However, rest assured, we know more about such organizations that we ever wanted to know. In fact we would have liked it if they had never existed. When we consider the whole of the picture of what we and all of the people in our country are faced with we wonder what we can do to win our country back. ...



Sent at: Saturday September 27th, 2008 12:59 pm GMT
by Bobby Garner

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Bobby Garner


Bobby Garner is a researcher on the phenomenon of One-Worldism with an emphasis on the methods and techniques employed in it's attendant deception. He may be reached via E-mail from his Website at www.congregator.net. He welcomes your comments. This article may be posted in it's entirety on any website provided this statement remains attached.

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